Guide to Angling in World of Tanks


This guide explains the concept of “angling” in World of Tanks (WoT).

Angling is turning the hull (body) of your tank so that the front of your tank is pointed slightly to the left or right of your target.

Proper angling increases your tank’s effective hull armor, which can cause incoming shells to ricochet or bounce – i.e. angling increases the probability that a shell fails to penetrate armor. Angling can also cause indecision on the part of your opponent as they debate where to aim.

One analogy to explain this is to think about a martial arts strike hitting a wooden board:

  • If the strike hits the board at an angle as shown in the upper panel, the fist may bounce off or not break the board
  • If the strike hits the board straight on as shown in the bottom panel, i.e. the impact angle is 0°, maximum force is applied and the board is more likely to break.

Image from Dr. Rogers’ Physics Class

The same concept applies to shell penetration in WoT.

How Much Do I Angle My Hull?

Short answer: it depends on how thick your side hull armor is relative to your front hull armor.

As general rule, you want to angle your hull to the extent that you can increase your effective front armor without over-exposing your side armor.

Here are the impact angles and effective armor multipliers based on the angle of your hull:

Hull Angle1 Front Hull Impact Angle Side Hull Impact Angle Front Hull Effective Armor Multiplier Side Hull Effective Armor Multiplier2
< 20° < 20° > 70° Between 100% and 106.41% Ricochet3
20° 20° 70° 106.42% 292.38%
25° 25° 65° 110.34% 236.62%
30° 30° 60° 115.47% 200%
35° 35° 55° 122.08% 174.34%
40° 40° 50° 130.54% 155.57%
45° 45° 45° 141.42% 141.42%
50° 50° 40° 155.57% 130.54%

1 There are select tanks, such as the IS-3/IS-8/IS-7 and the Chinese variants of those tanks, that have a “pike-nose” front, and for such tanks the front of your hull should be pointing at the enemy tank, i.e. you would want to maintain a hull angle of 0°

2 The tracks of your tank add 20mm of armor if hit, so the effective side hull armor is increased when a shell has to penetrate the tracks

3 Note: If the AP or APCR shell caliber is 3 times or more than the nominal thickness of the armor (such as a 120mm shell hitting a 40mm thick plate), the shell never ricochets. See Shell Normalization below

Tanks with low armor may not benefit meaningfully from the increased effective armor gained by angling, since increasing a small number won’t matter much, in which case you may want to not angle your hull so that maintain the smallest possible silhouette.

Recommended Angles for Specific Tanks

With the earlier table in mind, here are some examples for recommended hull angle when your tank is in the open field without available physical cover, taking into account only the thickness of the front and side hull armor.

Tank Front Hull Armor Side Hull Armor Recommended Hull Angle
Tier 4 Matilda 75mm 70mm 40°
Tier 5 KV-1 75mm 75mm 45°
Tier 8 Tiger II 150mm (sloped) 80mm 25°
Tier 9 E-75 200mm (sloped) 120mm 25°
Tier 10 E-100 200mm (sloped) 130mm + 60mm spaced 35°
Tier 10 IS-4 140mm (sloped) 160mm 35°

Longer answer: to determine how much to angle your hull, you need to consider not only the thickness of your front and side hull armor but also the slope and sizable weak spots.

For example, the tier 10 IS-4 Soviet heavy tank has a frontal weak spot in the Lower Front Glacis (LFG), which at 0° angling has an effective armor of 209mm and is easily penetrated by most tier 9-10 tanks. However, the IS-4 has thick side hull armor of 160mm, so the driver is able to angle at 35° to boost the effective armor of the Lower Front Glacis to 255mm while still maintaining a high effective armor value of 279mm for the side hull.

IS-4 Angled

Video Walkthroughs

This video covers the basic concepts of angling:

The following video provides a more advanced look at angling techniques in a city map, using the footage from the battle on my tier 10 IS-4 in which I earned the “Ace Tanker” Mastery achievement:

Of course, you won’t always have the benefit of hard cover as shown in the IS-4 video. The following video of my E75 demonstrates hull angling in the open field and leveraging even subtle crests to hide your LFG:

For more advanced videos, check out my “Road to Unicum” tank reviews in which I share what I’ve learned as I progress towards account Unicum rating (top 1%). I talk through how I’m reading each battle as it unfolds and discuss key decisions and mistakes. My hope is that these videos meaningfully help other players improve their gameplay.

Angling Diagrams

The following diagrams illustrate the concept of angling in various situations.

angling-scenario-1
angling-scenario-2
angling-scenario-3
angling-scenario-4

As Crueldwarf posted below, another angling technique is “sidescraping” in which you only expose your angled side to the enemy.Sidescraping imageSidescraping tends to work best when:

  • You have thick side armor, so that shots that hit your side will likely ricochet or get absorbed by your tracks
  • You are trying to cover notable weakspots in your front hull, e.g. the soft LFG of many German tanks, the “R2D2” machine gun turret of the KV-5, etc
  • It’s OK if you get “tracked” (tracks knocked off, which immobilizes the tank)

As a final note, there is a variant of sidescraping known as “reverse sidescraping” where the rear of your tank is what you are covering while sidescraping – you are essentially facing backwards. This technique is only applicable for tanks with strong rear hull armor, such as the KV-5, which has an armor layout of 180/150/140, and for tanks that have obvious weak spots in the front hull armor. Reverse sidescraping requires some time to set up, and it can leave you in a vulnerable position if your enemy rushes at you.

Shell Normalization

AP and ACPR shells are normalized, i.e. they are adjusted towards the armor’s normal axis at the point of impact. In layman’s terms, this means AP and ACPR shells effectively reduce the angle of the armor. AP normalization is 5°, ACPR is 2°. HEAT and HE shells are not normalized.

So for example, if an enemy tank is firing AP at your side armor, and the impact angle is 60°, for penetration purposes, your side armor is treated as if the impact angle is 55°.

On top of this, there are “overmatch” mechanics when the shell’s caliber exceeds the nominal armor thickness. If the caliber / nominal armor ratio is

  • 2+: shell normalization is (7 x caliber/nominal armor) for AP and (2.8 x caliber/nominal armor) for ACPR, instead of the normal 5° and 2° values
  • 3+: it’s a guaranteed penetration

This is a lot of math, but it basically means if your tank has very thin armor, angling won’t meaningfully help.

Recommended Tools and Resources

There are some amazing web sites, mobile/tablet apps, and desktop applications that enable you visualize your hull armor values at various angles with 3D models. Here are the ones I recommend.

tanks.gg

This relatively new site allows you to view the 3D models of every tank in a web browser.

You can mouse over various parts of the tank to see the penetration values. You can also rotate the turret, so that you can determine side and rear turret values.

The site provides both live and test 3D models.

It also has an interesting feature which allows you to see the gun depression values for any direction.

Tank Inspector

This is an application you install on your Windows computer, and similar to tanks.gg, it provides 3D models of every tank.

One notable feature is that you can specify the shell type (AP/APCR/HEAT/HE/HESH) and caliber of the gun firing on the tank, as shell normalization varies by shell type, and this enables you to see the effective armor values.

Cheers,

Taugrim

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39 comments on “Guide to Angling in World of Tanks
  1. Crueldwarf says:

    May be you can add another one variant of angling to the guide?

    Reverse Angling. It is good for tanks with rear turret placement and good side armor, but relatively weak front. Something like that:

    P.S. Sorry for my poor english.

    • taugrim says:

      Reverse Angling. It is good for tanks with rear turret placement and good side armor, but relatively weak front. Something like that

      Yes, that is a technique called “sidescraping” :)

      I’ll link your image to the Guide.

      Thanks!

      P.S. Sorry for my poor english.

      Your English is good!

  2. Strike@Karkand says:

    World of Tanks ? you been gone forever and you play this ? sure it’s a good game but were is the competetive MMO gamer ? your gaming friends left SWTOR for GW2 and did they leave that game as well ? i mean GW2 is a pretty bad and easy pvp game but still. Given up on MMOs i’m guessing.When you played SWTOR you got a lot of people following you and talking here, guess those people are gone after you quit swtor to play the next thing…
    Anyways not to be mean but most people who used to see your guides dont give a **** about tanks.Good luck with what ever you are doing.

    • taugrim says:

      sure it’s a good game but were is the competetive MMO gamer

      WoT is an MMO.
      WoT is pretty competitive IMO. It’s a very skill-based game.

      Anyways not to be mean but most people who used to see your guides dont give a **** about tanks

      Look, I play games for fun, and I think WoT is a fantastic game.

      If you don’t like it, you don’t like it.

      I’ll write about whatever games I’m playing and enjoying.

      • Geldarion says:

        Personally, I wouldn’t play this game, but I appreciate that this is not a GW2 or SWTOR blog, but that you cover all games that you play. And give great info. Keep it up man.

        • taugrim says:

          Personally, I wouldn’t play this game

          I was never interested in it either, then on a whim (because Age of Wushu was such an awful F2P experience), I gave WoT a try, and I was really blown away by how tactical and team-based the gameplay is.

          It’s an underrated game.

          but I appreciate that this is not a GW2 or SWTOR blog, but that you cover all games that you play. And give great info. Keep it up man.

          Thanks :)

          Of course, I’m really excited and curious about TESO, CU, WildStar, and Neverwinter but those games are in development / Beta so it will be a while yet til we can meaningfully experience them.

  3. Hey Taugrim, great post. My feelings are that any post from you about any game you’re playing is a great read. Is there any chance of a post about why you did not like Age of Wushu.

    I’ve heard it’s kung-fu Eve Online, which for competitive PvP, should be in your wheelhouse.

    • taugrim says:

      Is there any chance of a post about why you did not like Age of Wushu.

      I’ve heard it’s kung-fu Eve Online

      Not sure how EVE’s offline skill advancement works, but with AoW you have to pay to be able to develop skills offline or in-game, or you have to play a lot.

      The controls/UI were clunky and the localization was terrible. This is the kind of experience I expected 5-8 years ago.

  4. Administrator says:

    A lot of people dismiss this game as a simple tank shooter. The depth to this game really lends it to more of a tactical team based shooter. I love that real world strategies and physics take precedence over game mechanics.

    This game is an MMO by definition. People have come to think MMO and a persistent world are synonymous. That’s a changing way of thinking. Just like how people thought all F2P games were bad until games like this and League of Legends came along. Marketing this as an MMO may be a marketing move to get people to give it a fair try.

    Anyway, great video. Angling is a great first tip for beginners. Wish someone told me that when I started. I’d love to platoon a few games with you sometime, and I can recommend a great clan that is pretty relaxed when it comes to clan wars.

    • In Eve you buy skill books, using in game currency, which can be earned in many ways an then simply start training them. The skill takes real time to complete and you continue training even when not logged in. It sounds like Wushu is a grindfest.

      • taugrim says:

        Thanks for the info, and yes, Wushu looks like a grindfest.

        I didn’t find the combat fun either, and on paper it sounded like it would be good.

    • How friendly is WoT for single players not in a “guild”?

      • I got frustrated and burned out after about a month. If you had few friends, you might be OK. The co-op experience really makes this game shine.

        I solo a bit still, but running in platoons (groups) is what is really going to show off what the game has to offer.

        I’ll be glad to run some games with you if you want to try it.

      • taugrim says:

        How friendly is WoT for single players not in a “guild”?

        FWIW, I solo queue ~90% of the time. You run into the typical issues you’d see in other games, such as players not communicating or coordinating, people leeroying to no useful purpose, etc.

        But this is a fun game period, solo or grouping.

    • taugrim says:

      A lot of people dismiss this game as a simple tank shooter. The depth to this game really lends it to more of a tactical team based shooter. I love that real world strategies and physics take precedence

      Agreed 100%.

      Just like how people thought all F2P games were bad until games like this and League of Legends came along.

      Indeed.

      The definition of MMO is shifting over time, and games like WoT and LoL prove that developers can create F2P games that are high-quality with high replayability.

      I can recommend a great clan that is pretty relaxed when it comes to clan wars.

      Our guild hasn’t created a clan yet, we just group up via friends list and talk in Mumble. Although I solo queue ~90% of the time.

  5. DrSinister says:

    WoT is decent for Solo player, 99% of my gameplay is solo, just got to learn to follow in packs with the other tanks.

    Yes, Taugrim, WoT is an underrated game, I thought the same thing about 2 years ago. I told myself why would I play a slow pace Tank shooter. When I finally decided to DL it and play it (I was burnt out on various MMOs at the time) after about a month, I was throwing Monthly Premium accounts at WG.

    Now, I have not been on WoT since the 8.1 (they are at 8.5) patch, because I got accepted into WG’s closed beta for WoWp and have been helping and enjoying my time with WoWp, so much that I do not find time to play WoT.

    • taugrim says:

      WoT is decent for Solo player, 99% of my gameplay is solo, just got to learn to follow in packs with the other tanks.

      Yep.

      Sometimes I stay away from the pack, if it looks like we’re leaving a flank undermanned or leaving our arty’s uncovered. It’s awful when SPG’s are not protected and they get easily picked off by scouting light tanks.

      I told myself why would I play a slow pace Tank shooter. When I finally decided to DL it and play it (I was burnt out on various MMOs at the time) after about a month, I was throwing Monthly Premium accounts at WG.

      Same for me, except I haven’t paid a penny yet. I’ve been trying to see what the experience is like for a player who isn’t playing. I’ll post about my experience.

      • easlingc says:

        To me, I think it gets too much of a Grind around Tier 6+ as a free account. I do not know if this has changed since I have not really been on since June 2012 because I have been in WoWp Closed Beta testing that for WG.

        • taugrim says:

          To me, I think it gets too much of a Grind around Tier 6+ as a free account

          Yea, you and Traitine said the same thing.

          I decided to subscribe as Premium, to speed up the rate of XP and credit earning. It made getting through Tiers 3-5 in the Soviet line to get my KV-1 pretty quickly.

          I’m sure at 6+ the grind significantly increases, based on the XP / credit costs.

  6. It hasn’t changed. It is very grind happy in tier 7+. I’m having fun though, taking it slow and playing SWTOR and GW2 alongside it. I’d find it hard to make this a ‘main’ game between tiers 6 and 10 without premium.

    • taugrim says:

      It is very grind happy in tier 7+. I’m having fun though, taking it slow and playing SWTOR and GW2 alongside it

      That makes a lot of sense.

      I’m enjoying working my way up through different tanks. I got my KV-1 this weekend, and I surprisingly enjoyed the T-28 Tier 4 Soviet medium tank, despite it’s quirks (thin armor, big silhouette) because of the mobility and excellent gun.

  7. Casey M. says:

    It’s a good overall technique for reducing incoming damage, but it also runs the tactical risk of having a more experienced tank driver aiming for your treads instead, which could result in an entirely different slew of problems for you.

    Not that most people can aim that quickly and that well, but it is a slight risk that people should know about, especially when they’re up against a player with good aim. I just thought that I’d quickly mention it.

    • taugrim says:

      It’s a good overall technique for reducing incoming damage, but it also runs the tactical risk of having a more experienced tank driver aiming for your treads instead, which could result in an entirely different slew of problems for you.

      Understood.

      I do tend to angle anyway, for the mitigation/avoidance while I (hopefully) am penetrating the target.

  8. FrankyMcShanky says:

    Oh my! Taugrim is playing WoT’s! Platoon with me!?

    • taugrim says:

      Indeed I am!

      It’s a small world Franky, I actually saw you in a battle over a week ago, and I remember specifically because the outcome was…unusual :D

      My side was winning the battle, as we had 5 remaining tanks and just you on the other side.

      I figured we had the battle in the bag and stayed to watch the remainder of it even though you killed me and my guildee TrajanMVN. What happened is that you 1-shot each of the remaining 5 tanks.

      With 4 tanks left, I tried to tell the remaining allies that you were probably running the derp gun + gold ammo on your M4 and that they should be careful, as that combination provides incredible firepower, but they weren’t listening or comprehending – e.g. see the comment in the screenie.

      Patch 8.6 is bringing changes to the game that the community over on Reddit seems very excited about. One of the changes is HEAT gold ammo having its penetration mechanics nerfed:
      http://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTanks/comments/1ekiz1/update_86_game_mechanic_changes_official/

      I’d rather have WG remove gold ammo from the game completely, as I believe that the game would continue to be very profitable for WG even without it, and gold ammo is very problematic from a balancing perspective. As TrajanMVN said to me the other night, WG has done a good job at getting the two of us to spend money on WoT for the various perks (e.g. premium, crew training/re-training, crew skills/re-skilling, etc) aside from gold ammo :)

      AFAIK the ACPR gold ammo is not being touched in 8.6, but it’s not as problematic as the HEAT gold ammo. This is not to say that one can’t win games without gold ammo. As a relatively new player who has not used gold ammo and was non-premium through 856 battles, I managed to reach a 54% Win Rate by my 1300th game, with ~80% of battles as a solo pub:
      http://www.noobmeter.com/player/na/taugrim

      At any rate, assuming you were gold rounding – I hope you understand I’m not picking on you. You just happened to be the best example TrajanMVN and I had seen in our time in WoT of the impact of gold ammo. I read your forum post over on the WoT forums and agree with what you wrote – attitude and making the effort to improve one’s gameplay are the biggest factors in improving one’s performance, instead of taking the easy path of whining. It’s great that you took the time to share your thoughts about it. And I appreciate your linking to this guide in it!
      http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/236995-doctor-mcshankys-grotesquely-unethical-re-education-program-a-terribads-guide-to-being-not-quite-so-terrible/

      You’ve been playing WoT for longer than I, so I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on the various changes coming in 8.6.

      I’m very curious to see how the improvements to accuracy in 8.6 will affect gameplay. It should make hitting weak spots much more easier, in which case players who know where to aim on a given tank should be able to do better.

      Happy WoT’ing!

      • FrankyMcShanky says:

        Yes! That was my first kolobnovs (Stand up to five tanks alone and survive) medal and it will be forever tainted by the M4 and gold rounds.

        I agree with you 90% about gold rounds. HEAT rounds are far to effective on many guns, the 105mm howitzers being a prime example. It gives tier 5’s more DPM than any tier 8 tank. However, Wargamming seems to be dialing back the effect of premium shells and emphasizing the exploitation of weak spots. Which is great.

        I’m on the fence about removing gold rounds entirely. They add an extra element to managing your economy. Yes non premium players will have to grind a little longer and be more careful in the use of gold shells but they can still afford to use them.

        I would be okay with the out right removal of premium shells, hell it’s probably the best thing for the game. I’d just miss some of the other effects. For example, APCR rounds have a higher velocity even though their pen drops off faster over range. This helps with hitting fast moving scouts.

        I believe Wargamming is making a good effort to lessen the power gap between paying and free players. Heck, I think it was in 8.3 or 8.4 that they made it so that you could buy gold rounds for credits. No one knew how over powered the 105mm HEAT shells were before that because no one ever bought gold ammo for it.

        As exciting as the HEAT and accuracy changes are I’m most exited about the others.

        -The nerfing and standardization of camo in general. Bushes and trees won’t provide the same amount of extra camo. This is HUGE. I mention in another comment that mastering and abusing the vision/camo mechanics are critical to success in high level gameplays because they’re the only mechanics that don’t rely on RNG. I’m VERY excited to see how this change effects the meta game.

        -Gaining experience for damage done to vehicles you track. This is awesome! Suddenly a good player is rewarded a lot more when he’s bottom of the tier and can’t pen tanks frontally. A lot of strategy in platoons involves isolating and tracking tanks at the right time.

        -Arty nerfs. You haven’t gotten to high tier game play yet but in tiers 8+ arty is a piss poor mechanic that encourages camping and turns open maps in to very static boring ones. Wargamming seems to be trying to ween players off arty.

        Thank you so much for the kind comments on my guide. It was actually more an attempt to inject a little levity into forums that are a bit to serious and toxic for their own good. It’s funny, after I stopped playing GW2 I also stopped visiting your blog. When writing that guide I was look for a good angling tutorial to link with it and lo and behold I found your blog again. Such an awesome well produced yet simple to understand guide you wrote. The WoT’s community needs more like it.

        I looked up your stats last night and was so jealous of how well you’re doing. I played WoT for about 3500 games before quitting, I did terrible with a 51% win rate. I then moved on to SWTOR and discovered your key-mapping guide through The Republic. Following your blog and watching the Republic and you changed the way that I approached gaming. I used to just lazily herp derp my way through games not caring about my own performance. Now after coming back to WoT’s I’m rocking a 55% win rate! You turned me into a competitive player and I thank you for it.

        I’m sorry for the bad formatting and any errors, I’m in a rush to get out of the house.

        Seriously hit me up on WoT’s if you ever need a platoon mate. It would be an honor.

        • taugrim says:

          Yes! That was my first kolobnovs (Stand up to five tanks alone and survive) medal and it will be forever tainted by the M4 and gold rounds.

          Well, it is a rare achievement, and gold ammo or no. And it requires some bad judgment on the part of the 5 – especially when they’re rushing in for the final kill instead of realizing what’s happening or comm’ing on chat.

          I’m on the fence about removing gold rounds entirely. They add an extra element to managing your economy. Yes non premium players will have to grind a little longer and be more careful in the use of gold shells but they can still afford to use them.

          Re: the economy, so long as a player is actively unlocking new tanks, buying mounted equipment, even with Premium they are going to not have a lot of extra credits sitting around. That changes if a player stops unlocking new tanks – what does the player do with their credits?

          Yet I think a more reasonable balance could be made here. E.g. if gold rounds provided 10% higher penetration than the regular ammo, that would be a significant advantage in my opinion. The difference between, say, 120 pen and 132 pen will make a difference, especially when the gun and target armor are closely matched.

          I would be okay with the out right removal of premium shells, hell it’s probably the best thing for the game. I’d just miss some of the other effects. For example, APCR rounds have a higher velocity even though their pen drops off faster over range. This helps with hitting fast moving scouts.

          What you’re talking from a conceptual perspective is incomparables. Players can spend to have more choice on what their “gear” is – but there are associated tradeoffs with each set of ammo.

          That would be a far better implementation – give players choice, but don’t make ammo a P2W experience.

          The nerfing and standardization of camo in general. Bushes and trees won’t provide the same amount of extra camo. This is HUGE

          I’ve read a bit about this but not clear what the implications are. I’ll reserve judgment til I see it live.

          Gaining experience for damage done to vehicles you track. This is awesome! Suddenly a good player is rewarded a lot more when he’s bottom of the tier and can’t pen tanks frontally. A lot of strategy in platoons involves isolating and tracking tanks at the right time.

          Agree 100%, and this will support / encourage good teamplay.

          Arty nerfs. You haven’t gotten to high tier game play yet but in tiers 8+ arty is a piss poor mechanic that encourages camping and turns open maps in to very static boring ones.

          What I find ironic up through Tier 6 tanks (so I face Tier 8’s) is that when games don’t have arties, there tends to be a lot more movement.

          I would have expected arty-free games to have more camping, but instead players seem more comfortable venturing out from cover, since they only face nearby tanks, not those tanks + the arties who are across the map.

          Thank you so much for the kind comments on my guide. It was actually more an attempt to inject a little levity into forums that are a bit to serious and toxic for their own good

          Well, you hit on a theme which is part of what got me blogging in the first place: stop whining about things you can’t control, and focus constructively on what you can: your own gameplay. That really is what got me writing guides in the first place – reading all the (inaccurate) claims that such and such a class was broken, or a build was broken, etc.

          Truly some classes are OP’d and some are UP’d in a given game in a given context (PVP, PVE, solo farming, etc), but at the end of the day a lot of the UP classes are functional if played well.

          It’s funny, after I stopped playing GW2 I also stopped visiting your blog. When writing that guide I was look for a good angling tutorial to link with it and lo and behold I found your blog again. Such an awesome well produced yet simple to understand guide you wrote. The WoT’s community needs more like it.

          Thanks.

          I wrote it partly because I was seeing a lot of players not angling or never angling, even though it’s something people talk about a lot. So I figured showing some illustrative footage and diagrams would be helpful.

          I looked up your stats last night and was so jealous of how well you’re doing. I played WoT for about 3500 games before quitting, I did terrible with a 51% win rate.

          FWIW, 51% WR is actually very solid, ~2% above the average, which is statistically significant.

          I checked the advanced stats of a guildee (L337Zeon) who has a 51% WR, and that maps to 80th percentile:
          http://wot-news.com/index.php/stat/single/us

          I then moved on to SWTOR and discovered your key-mapping guide through The Republic, Following your blog and watching the Republic and you changed the way that I approached gaming. I used to just lazily herp derp my way through games not caring about my own performance. Now after coming back to WoT’s I’m rocking a 55% win rate! You turned me into a competitive player and I thank you for it.

          I’m glad to hear that my blog helped you raise your gameplay so noticeably :)

          Your 55% WR maps to ~97th percentile, which is outstanding.

          But honestly a big part of simply doing better is having a consistent desire and focus to do well. I go through spurts where I’m just slogging through games instead of really thinking about what I’m doing, and trying to have a good time. That is one danger with WoT – it takes time to grind out new tanks, and one can simply just cruise and not really focus.

          I’m sorry for the bad formatting and any errors, I’m in a rush to get out of the house.

          Seriously hit me up on WoT’s if you ever need a platoon mate. It would be an honor.

          Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and experience.

          We’ll have to platoon when 8.6 launches, I’ll be interested to hear your perspective as a more experienced player who has seen the game evolve.

          • FrankyMcShanky says:

            Re: the economy, so long as a player is actively unlocking new tanks, buying mounted equipment, even with Premium they are going to not have a lot of extra credits sitting around. That changes if a player stops unlocking new tanks – what does the player do with their credits?

            As far as the economy is concerned have you taken note of the special events they have nearly every weekend? They can provide 30%-80% income bonuses for selected tanks, giving them the potential to earn as much as a tier 8 premium. They sell tanks for up to 50% off. They sell things like modules, premium shells, and consumables for 50% less as well. Also, they have weekly tech tree focus events like this. http://worldoftanks.com/news/2333-tech-tree-focus-germany-may-20-24/

            I know many players that are able to sustain their monthly premium time and then some through their success in clan wars, tournaments or through events like these . http://worldoftanks.com/news/2321-military-parade-mvp-winners/

            Maybe it’s my near religious abuse of these sells that keeps me from worrying about the economy too much.

            What you’re talking from a conceptual perspective is incomparables. Players can spend to have more choice on what their “gear” is – but there are associated tradeoffs with each set of ammo.

            That would be a far better implementation – give players choice, but don’t make ammo a P2W experience.

            Agreed. Wargamming needs to eliminate any pay to win perception as well as tighten up the RNG. Can you say competitive WoT e-sports!?!

            I’ve read a bit about this but not clear what the implications are. I’ll reserve judgment til I see it live.

            Exactly! The implications are very unclear there is little info about the actual change. It excites me because it’s so mysterious and has the potential to radically change the way we play certain maps and tanks.

            What I find ironic up through Tier 6 tanks (so I face Tier 8′s) is that when games don’t have arties, there tends to be a lot more movement.

            You’ve hit the nail on the head.

            There was a hilarious picture that describes my feelings on the subject pretty well. I’ll try to find for you. It has a Matador (with a medium tank icon above his head) fighting a bull (with a heavy tank icon above his head) and an guy with a rocket launcher sitting in the cowd (with an arty icon above him).

            I would have expected arty-free games to have more camping, but instead players seem more comfortable venturing out from cover, since they only face nearby tanks, not those tanks + the arties who are across the map.

            This video commentary is from guy I platoon with a bit. It illustrates the kind of neat things you can do with terrain nuances when there is no arty. http://www.youtube.com/feed/UCfxtfhabS6BqwdJr3slPGcw

            Well, you hit on a theme which is part of what got me blogging in the first place: stop whining about things you can’t control, and focus constructively on what you can: your own gameplay. That really is what got me writing guides in the first place – reading all the (inaccurate) claims that such and such a class was broken, or a build was broken, etc.

            Yep! This irks me so much.

            Truly some classes are OP’d and some are UP’d in a given game in a given context (PVP, PVE, solo farming, etc), but at the end of the day a lot of the UP classes are functional if played well.

            The thing is that I don’t mind when people abuse their overpowered build/class. I just hate when they try and defend it. Heck, look at me abusing the heck out of the 105mm on the M4 but I’ll jump for joy when it gets nerfed. I wish people would understand that those things are bad for the game.

            But honestly a big part of simply doing better is having a consistent desire and focus to do well. I go through spurts where I’m just slogging through games instead of really thinking about what I’m doing, and trying to have a good time. That is one danger with WoT – it takes time to grind out new tanks, and one can simply just cruise and not really focus.

            Well that’s the thing. You taught me to approach gaming in a mature and deliberate fashion. To think about what I’m doing and why in an intelligent manner.

            Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and experience.

            Any time!

            We’ll have to platoon when 8.6 launches, I’ll be interested to hear your perspective as a more experienced player who has seen the game evolve

            I’m looking forward to it!

            And I REALLY hope that “blockquote” thing works.

            • taugrim says:

              As far as the economy is concerned have you taken note of the special events they have nearly every weekend?

              Maybe it’s my near religious abuse of these sells that keeps me from worrying about the economy too much.

              Ah yes, I had forgotten to take those events into account. So far there have been two weekends with events over the month I’ve been playing.

              The most recent 5x weekend is what made it possible for me to quickly grind through my T-150 and KV-1S.

              There was a hilarious picture that describes my feelings on the subject pretty well. I’ll try to find for you. It has a Matador (with a medium tank icon above his head) fighting a bull (with a heavy tank icon above his head) and an guy with a rocket launcher sitting in the cowd (with an arty icon above him).

              ROFL.

              Searched on Google, couldn’t find it.

              The thing is that I don’t mind when people abuse their overpowered build/class. I just hate when they try and defend it. Heck, look at me abusing the heck out of the 105mm on the M4 but I’ll jump for joy when it gets nerfed. I wish people would understand that those things are bad for the game.

              Agreed.

              I learned my lesson with RIFT patch 1.5 that some people simply lack objectivity and are more concerned about their class OPness than what is genuinely good for the game.

              If you want to see some real class balance drama, read the comments on my thread about RIFT patch 1.5:
              http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-general-discussions/pvp-warfronts/261665-trion-dropped-ball-rift-patch-1-5-pvp.html
              https://taugrim.com/2011/09/28/trion-dropped-the-ball-with-rift-patch-1-5-pvp/

              And I REALLY hope that “blockquote” thing works.

              It did for the most part, I had to insert a closing blockquote to have it formatted correctly.

              For various reasons I do not edit people’s comments, but I figured in this case it’s OK :)

  9. taugrim says:

    Updated the guide: added tables with hull angles, impact angles, and effective armor values.

  10. Mark Kemp says:

    I am slightly baffled by the example at about 3 minutes into the basic video. You are shooting a KV1. I think the KV1 has similar if not slightly better armour and more alpha damage and pen than a Matilda, So if all was equal he should probably grind you down or at least come out near even. But you are angled so you win (point of the video). But it looks like he is angled roughly the same as you, he is certainly not head on. So how comes angling saved you and not him?

    • taugrim says:

      You’re absolutely correct.

      One on one, a KV-1 should wreck a Matilda.

      I was using that example to show that even a high-penetration of 120 from the KV-1 can be bounced by a Matilda with proper angling.

      My Matilda was angled at 45 degrees, which is ideal given that the front and side hull armor are about equal (75/70).

      That KV-1 was taking fire from multiple tanks, and I got the kill shot because it was too flat (over-angled) relative to my tank, so it was easy to penetrate.

  11. greg smith says:

    hello, i am a wot clan commander. i have been in this mmo since 7.2. we , as a clan, have enjoyed your posts, thank you for your time in sharing these tips in a format that i use for our new guys, in training. you are a true gamer………one who shares the ins and outs of a game, with outrecompense, simply because of…the game.

    i have been gaming in wow, and eve, and others since the beginning. i am an old gamer, been at it since 1982, first time i played mechwarrior on a tandy 2000 cpu…..lol.

    thanks for all your posts and training tips…you rock dude.

    good hunting..

    Commander of The Corps.

  12. William says:

    Great post and guide. You explained it plain and simple enough for me to understand it. Thanks for post this. I do have a question though. I try to adjust my tanks to the proper angles but find it difficult at times, in your opinion would it be safe to assume that pointing your tracks (either the left or right depending on which way you angle) at the middle of your enemies tack would give you the proper angle or should you point your tracks at the ememies tracks? I am just trying to gauge the proper angle and alignment of the tank. Thanks
    William

    • I try to adjust my tanks to the proper angles but find it difficult at times, in your opinion would it be safe to assume that pointing your tracks (either the left or right depending on which way you angle) at the middle of your enemies tack would give you the proper angle

      It really depends on the armor layout of your tank.

      For some tanks (e.g. ST-I, IS-4, Maus), you can significantly expose the side armor because it is so thick.

      What I recommend you do is install TankInspector and look for particular tanks what the optimum angle is for not over-exposing your side armor but still providing some protection for your front hull armor.

  13. shayan says:

    Man hats off for this superb explanation… Best thing I like is the best understanding by diagram… good work man… I been reading many guides by others.. by that’s one easy to understand by the concept of diagrams…

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